From Grime Legends To Grime History Vol.14

What memorable clashes have you been a part of or witnessed taking place?


Around the early 2000's when dancehall mafia was on Temptation FM, management arranged a clash so every crew that was on that station picked who they wanted to battle against. So our crew got called out, we was the heavyweights on temptation every pirate radio station has the big hitters that everyone locks into for us we was one of them, as I was saying we got a phone call from someone on the station telling us some crew wanted to clash I remember getting my records ready making sure I picked out the right dubs so everyone linked up headed to radio got there we see the crew who we was gonna clash, I can't remember that crews name but one thing I do remember is the crew who we was clashing one of the members had the same emcees name as one of our members, I always new this clash would happen it needed to set the record straight!

So anyway we went to radio I see other crews clashing it was very tense because it was live as well so you had to be on point, every crew that was on Temptation FM was there everyone wanted to be the top dog so finally we jump on the set I remember dropping that Aaliyah tune "are you that somebody" the instrumental, we was going in sending for the other crew then finally the two emcees with the same name were going at it both was saying stuff but at the end of the day like Skepta said "I have to deal with any imposters" kinda thing loool there can be only one in this situation so fast forward to now and he's still here, bars on bars, mixtapes etc... big up man like Rage.


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I've come from a background of clashing within the grime scene being an Ex member of fire camp but all in all the best experience for me was clashing on Lord Of The Mics against Jammin. I felt as though I was almost forced into this clash for reasons beyond music and I went into this clash 100% confident of a burial and that was exactly what happened. No disrespect to Jammin because he definitely played his part but I was leagues above him on the day and it was very entertaining to watch as a whole. The after effect was healthy and my overall reputation grew so it was well worth the experience and will always be a prominent music memory for me.


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The most memorable clash I ever had I would say , was on Raw blaze 90.00 against lightning from younger nasty. This happened like 2005/06. Me and shorty smalls was forever going at em in youth clubs such as princess Alice pub or Greengate pub. Healthy clashes , no need after but EVERY week without fail we were in the youth clubs going at each other.

At the time we were one of the few younger crews at that time that were putting in work and was known on the circuit. It finally all came to a head when Lightning came to one of our sets and clashed with me and shorty smalls (click here to listen, for the full clash click here). I have to give it to him , the confidence he showed by turning up by himself was beyond me. I feel we come from the era of clashing and going at each other. It was normal then in all fairness. Gave me the depth and strength to be able to handle myself in lyrical war


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From Grime Legends To Grime History Vol.12

Whats your thoughts on people who think grime is only about violence?

To say, 'Grime only promotes violence,' is so boring and played out!!!

Just look around, everyone is singing to it, mums, dads, aunties etc... I've had conversations with people that don't even like it, but they've never said, 'This genre of music, grime promotes that!' Do you remember that programme THIS IS YOUR LIFE? and the guy had that big red book and in it had your journey in life, from back then, till where you are at NOW; So the way I see it is, your life is that book and YOU'RE THE AUTHOR, ARTISTES etc.. So, whatever you've done, seen or been through in your life, is what you're going to talk about, sometimes, but don't get it twisted, SOME NOT ALL will try sell you a JAMES BOND life story, lol, while others will stick to their true artistry and say it how it is without adding the fictional part.

Another thing, I know this is a bit off topic, but if grime promotes violence, what the hell does the government promote? Because what I've seen from back then till now is a madness!!! The government are just like the road mandem, they've got gangs, shotters, robbers etc, but just more political with suits and ties! But anyway what I'm trying to say is, if a majority of your life you've known a certain way of living good or bad and you're in this artistry world = MC, singer, rapper, writer, musician or whatever, that's what is going be channeled through the WORK YOU DO!

I just feel if you don't understand certain things it's easy to criticize; we all do it sometimes, especially when you're looking in from the outside. Grime is a genre of music that can't be contained or controlled, it needs to stay that way! No disrespect this ain't dubstep, what the FAT CATS did, to that genre, we can't let that happen to GRIME, it started with us, The Underground, The Underdogs, we got to keep that raw element to it.

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People that talk like that are small minded and don't fully understand Grime music, I feel music represents life and Grime is no exception to that.
In my eyes the scene is still young compared to other more established music genres so when people pass judgement it usually comes back to bite them.
Violence is all around us, especially on the streets of London it's an everyday thing, so the music is always going to represent the realities of the environment it comes from. If people take time out to listen to the music they will realise there's a lot of substance to the lyrics and stories are being told, you just have to scratch beneath the surface.
Look even Tom and Jerry deals with violence but it's deemed OK for children to watch, so to me it's all a matter of opinion and everybody is entitled to one.

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I feel as though Grime music is a trend and art form just like any other music genre. Rockstars actively engage in mosh pits and crowd surfing but are never stereotyped as being violent or negative in the way Grime does.

I think because grime music has a lot of competitiveness and clashing involved it sometimes allows people to believe in a hype and take what they are seeing and hearing as gospel but that more often than not tends to be publicity stunts or as they say 'for the love of the sport'. Not to say that things don't get very real but in my opinion much of it is played out and the rest isn't.

For me personally, Grime music attracts the types of energy that makes me want to express the good, bad and the ugly and everything in between, it's never been about promoting solely violence and negativity, but that comes with the territory because ultimately we are all products of our own environments.


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From Grime Legends To Grime History Vol.11

What do you think if any, is the difference between grime of the early 2000's and grime now?

It would be silly to compare the scene back in the day to what we have now, for the simple fact that when the scene first started everything was fresh, brand new and groundbreaking.

Them times you had no archives to look back on, everything was about originality and creating something no ones heard before.
Nowadays new Grime artists can spit over a classic riddim and gain exposure, which proves to me the power of the early Grime scene, a lot of good music got slept on.
I'm just happy everything seems to be going full circle and we are now appreciating and celebrating the Grime scene for what it has done for U.K culture, if it wasn't for the scene I don't know what I would be doing with my life right now, music has saved me.
All in all the early era of Grime music laid the foundations and gave the benchmark for the new generation to aspire to.


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I originally came into the grime scene around 2003-04 and back then the most practical and common way of exposure was pirate radio and live an direct in a rave. Social media was the bare minimal and sites such as MySpace had grown quite popular for artists to promote themselves. Now we have the likes YouTube, Soundcloud and Twitter to name a few which have totally changed the dynamics of how artists can promote their music. We used to cut dub plates at the music house factory and sell them in the few record shops supplying Grime, now everything is done online digitally which I guess has made things a lot easier for artists. I would definitely say that these changes have helped grime music and artists in general reach further heights and expand the culture.


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The difference between grime now and then, there wasn't a lot of social media platforms plain and simple! Like twitter, insta, snap chat etc.. back then if you was grime mc or dj your best outlet to get your stuff heard was pirate radio, even youth clubs, that was your best platform! You had to reaaaally graft hard not to say you don't have to graft hard now but i just feel with so much different media outlets you can become a artist just like that It's crazy! back then you had to really prove yourself!

Peeps can nowadays make a vid on insta or vine and become a over night hit where as me i had to put my work shift in. Two record bags some times three, my shoulders were killing me and all sorts just had flash back loool I was just trying to get to radio do my set and get myself heard! As well as back then there was only two big pirate radio stations in east not to say there wasn't other stations in but deja vu and rinse was the biggest! all of the big crews was on either one of them and the levels was high!

You got to remember we were competing against the likes of durrty goods, dizzee, d double etc.. so to stand out you had be different where as now i feel like some are trying recreate the golden era down to lyrics and vids but you can't you had to be there for yourself to see or even hear it! i want grime to keep on elevating it has to!

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I feel that grime in the early 2000 was more authenticated. I say this because then music was solely done for the porous of fun. Now days it's turned to a money motivated thing. I feel if more people went back to just having the passion for it and doing it on that basis. I feel the music wouldn't be as diluted as it is. Everyone's aim is just do what ever to make money, where although it is about money sometimes if more people just had the passion and let money come after I feel we would be in a better place.


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